and then the second part that have question would be how would you contrast the obama campaign versus the romney campaign? >> well, that's a great question. i mean, i remember being in a room -- we used to have the meeting every morning in chicago, and i remember sitting in this room. it was later in the campaign, it was maybe september, october, maybe sometime around this time and we would meet every morning with the senior staff. i remember looking out the window of the high-rise. i remember thinking could i do it again in every day you come together and you plan out what is going to happen during the day and at night i would come home and turn on the tv. because, you know, you have the meeting and everybody scattered and did what they were going to do. you hear what the candidates is going to do that cay and the execution of the event of the day. i would come home at night and see how the event went. you would see the event play ought in the farway city. i think i thought then it was done. this is as much as i could do. i decided i wasn't going duodwo 2012. my son, you know, was no